“We do not believe any group of men adequate enough or wise enough to operate without scrutiny or without criticism. We know that the only way to avoid error is to detect it, that the only way to detect it is to be free to inquire. We know that in secrecy error undetected will flourish and subvert.” –J. Robert Oppenheimer
Joe Biden never won. This is our Real President – 45, 46, 47.
AND our beautiful REALFLOTUS.
This Stormwatch Monday Open Thread remains open – VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA/KAG/KMAG world (with KMAG being a bit of both).
We continue to mourn the untimely passing of our beloved compatriot DePat, known in real life as Susie Sampson, and also as author Patricia Holden.
Until we have a dedicated author for the Tuesday daily open thread, I will be posting “placeholders” like this one, which may or may not be spiced up with additional content.
We now have a dedicated author for Tuesdays – TradeBait! (Or TradeBait2 as he is officially known to the software.) Please welcome him on April 1, 2025, when he begins!
Gudthots will take DePat’s old Thursday daily open thread.
This will be the last Tuesday placeholder – hopefully for a long, long time. Thank you all and God Bless!
W
Is the Rapture in the New Testament?
Aubergine
The more I research the Bible, the more convinced I become that there is some force, entity, or group, embedded even in Christianity itself, that doesn’t want the real truths of the Bible to ever be known.
It started when I found the mistranslation, found in almost every version of the Bible, of Jesus’s clear statements of “I am.” He used the name of God, given to Moses by the Man Himself, more than once; but in translation it has been watered down to “I am He,” or “it is I.”
Here that is in Matthew 14, when Jesus walks on water:
25 Now in the fourth watch of the night Jesus went to them, walking on the sea. 26 And when the disciples saw Him walking on the sea, they were troubled, saying, “It is a ghost!” And they cried out for fear.
27 But immediately Jesus spoke to them, saying, [c]“Be of good cheer! [d]It is I; do not be afraid.”
See that little letter ‘d’? If I click on that, it comes up with the reference “Lit. I am.”
LITERALLY I AM.
But translated as “It is I.” WHY? This appears in almost every Bible translation, with a couple of exceptions. Here is one outlier; the Amplified Bible, Classic Edition:
26 And when the disciples saw Him walking on the sea, they were terrified and said, It is a ghost! And they screamed out with fright.
27 But instantly He spoke to them, saying, Take courage! I Am! Stop being afraid!
It happens again in John 18 in the Garden of Gethsemane:
4 Then Jesus, knowing all that was about to happen to Him, went to them and asked, “Whom do you want?” 5 They answered Him, “Jesus the Nazarene.” Jesus said, “I am He.” And Judas, who was betraying Him, was also standing with them. 6 When Jesus said, “I am He,” they drew back and fell to the ground. 7 Again He asked them, “Whom do you want?” And they said, “Jesus the Nazarene.” 8 Jesus answered, “I told you that I am He; so if you want Me, let these men go on their way.”
All those italicized “He’s” are added. And if you think about it, it doesn’t make any sense with them anyway. They come looking for Jesus, He says “I am He” and they all fell down on the ground? Why? They were looking for the man. BUT, they were all Jews; they knew what “I AM” meant full well, so they fell to the ground before God in terror of what they were doing when Jesus said it.
Changing “I AM” to “I am He” sure waters down down the impact, doesn’t it?
And now I come to the Rapture.
I was challenged recently about the actuality of the Rapture, and whether it appears in the Bible. If you ask Google “is the Rapture in the New Testament,” here is the answer from AI:
The idea of the rapture is described in the New Testament, but the word “rapture” does not appear in the Bible.
This is essentially a lie, and I can prove it.
The concept of the rapture is introduced in the Bible in 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18, 1 Corinthians 15:51-53, and Matthew 24:40-42.
Thessalonians 4
13 But I do not want you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning those who have fallen [a]asleep, lest you sorrow as others who have no hope. 14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who [b]sleep in Jesus.
15 For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are [c]asleep. 16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord. 18 Therefore comfort one another with these words.
1 Corinthians 15
51 Behold, I tell you a [a]mystery: We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed— 52 in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
Matthew 24
40 Then two men will be in the field: one will be taken and the other left. 41 Two women will be grinding at the mill: one will be taken and the other left. 42 Watch therefore, for you do not know what [a]hour your Lord is coming.
My chief point today appears in the verse from Thessalonians, and these words in bold:
7 Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air.
Thessalonians was written in Greek. The Greek Text Analysis of “caught up” reveals ἁρπαγησόμεθα. Well, that’s Greek to me!
That Greek word is harpazo (ah, English letters), which means to snatch or take away. Elsewhere in the Bible the same word is used to describe how the Spirit caught up Philip near Gaza and brought him to Caesarea (Acts 8:39) and to describe Paul’s experience of being caught up into the third heaven (2 Cor. 12:2-4). So it would seem that the word is being used to describe people being “moved” from the Earth to “the clouds.”
A Greek to Latin translator reveals that the Greek word ἁρπαγησόμεθα in Latin is rapimur. The word “rapimur” for “caught up” in Thessalonians first appears in the Latin Vulgate Bible, translated by Jerome in 382. He was commissioned by Pope Damasus to translate the Four Gospels into Latin from the best available Greek texts, and by the time Damasus died in 384, he was mostly finished. In a letter to Pope Damasus in 383, Jerome wrote:
“You urge me to revise the old Latin version, and, as it were, to sit in judgment on the copies of the Scriptures which are now scattered throughout the whole world; and, inasmuch as they differ from one another, you would have me decide which of them agree with the Greek original. The labour is one of love, but at the same time both perilous and presumptuous; for in judging others I must be content to be judged by all; and how can I dare to change the language of the world in its hoary old age, and carry it back to the early days of its infancy?”
In the English language, we derive many words from Latin roots. The Latin word “rapimur” is the root word of…you guessed it…
RAPTURE.
The Rapture as a concept would not really be pushed to the fore until John Nelson Darby analyzed Bible translations in the 1830s. But the word that is the root of the word “Rapture” appeared in 384 in Jerome’s translation. I don’t think the “Harpazo” would have quite the same ring to it!
So there you have it. The word “Rapture” IS in the New Testament.
I find this prevarication to be as sly as ole Bill Clinton’s “depends on what the meaning of “is” is!” And both of the above examples, found across Christian belief and thought, make me wonder WHY and WHO? Because this isn’t just pagans and non-Christian sources. This is almost everywhere, even in Christianity itself.
FUN FACT
When the Gutenberg Bible was printed in the 1450’s, it was an edition of Jerome’s Latin Vulgate Bible. So the first books ever printed with moveable type contained the word we derive Rapture from.
*******IN FAIRNESS TO GROK AI*******
I thought to head over and ask Grok about the word rapture in the Bible. Lo and behold, it told the truth!
Does the word Rapture appear in the New Testament?
Yes, the word “Rapture” does appear in the New Testament, but not in the way you might think. The English word “Rapture” as commonly understood today—referring to the event where believers are caught up to meet Jesus Christ in the air—doesn’t appear explicitly in modern English translations of the Bible. However, the concept is derived from the Latin word raptura, meaning “a carrying off” or “seizure,” which comes from the verb rapere (“to snatch” or “to seize”). This Latin term was used in the Vulgate, a 4th-century Latin translation of the Bible, to translate the Greek word harpazō (ἁρπάζω), which means “to snatch away” or “to catch up.”
The key passage associated with the Rapture is found in 1 Thessalonians 4:17 (New Testament), where Paul writes: “Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord.” (ESV) In the Greek text, “caught up” is harpagēsometha (from harpazō), and in the Latin Vulgate, it’s rendered as rapiemur (from rapere). This is where the term “Rapture” originates.
So, while “Rapture” as an English word isn’t directly in the New Testament, the idea and the root word it’s based on (harpazō) are present, particularly in 1 Thessalonians 4:17. The modern use of “Rapture” to describe this event became popularized in English-speaking Christian theology much later, especially through 19th- and 20th-century dispensationalist teachings.
Does that clarify things for you? Let me know if you’d like me to dig deeper!
WELL, HANG ON THERE ABOUT GROK!
So, down in the comments, I told a story about asking Grok about the Rapture. I decided to move it up here, as it adds more to the AI part of the story:
I was telling a friend about the progression I went through in writing today’s post, and during that conversation, she and I stumbled upon a disturbing possibility. It went like this:
After my friend stated she didn’t believe there would be a Rapture, I, who have never studied it in depth, went looking for info. I first asked Google if the Rapture appeared in the New Testament. The answer I got is in the post above.
I went about doing my research, using various online sources, and my Bible (hard copy).
I wrote a draft of the above post in WordPress. It was in drafts, not scheduled for publication yet.
During the AI discussion here on the Tree, para wrote about using AI for research, and mentioned Grok. I hadn’t asked Grok anything about the subject of the Rapture in the Bible, so out of curiosity, I went and asked. I got the answer I put at the end of the post.
Now here’s the possibility my friend and I considered; Grok’s answer to my query is very close to the research I had written into drafts before I asked the question, and is completely different from the answer I got from Google AI. Did Grok “read” my research, not yet “published,” before answering?
This possibility disturbed my friend greatly, and it sure made me wonder.
Joe Biden never won. This is our Real President – 45, 46, 47.
AND our beautiful REALFLOTUS.
This Stormwatch Monday Open Thread remains open – VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA/KAG/KMAG world (with KMAG being a bit of both).
OK, this is interesting – a mixture of Jefferson Airplane, epic music, and Matrix visuals.
Which led me to another…..
Which led me back to the original. Which seems very strange now.
THE STUFF
Why is AI being used to create fake stories about Elon Musk?
I find this sort of fake story to be much more annoying that AI country music.
OK – let’s wash that away with some reality – the study of “perfect” numbers! (I may have played this topic before, but whatever – let’s play it again!)
Six is a pretty cool number – but 28? And 496? And (2^82,589,933 – 1)?
I never realized that Drexler’s concept of “radical abundance” might generalize to include country music – and yet here we are.
First of all, I’m not even sure that “AI” is where most of this stuff comes from – but I’m pretty sure it is. It may be that some of this highly anonymous music is coming from real, unknown country artists – but I kind of doubt it. And even then, how would I know?
Maybe I’d better start at the beginning.
As I was preparing “future posts created out of copied placeholders” in my usual way, I did a particularly lazy search for country music videos, in a way that tends to pull back compilations of current country hits, but also tends to get a few single songs that I’ve never heard before. This has been a great way for me to discover “new” country music – which may even be old music that I simply missed on the terrible, local, “hot country” stations.
Well, I got the following “compilation” video, and gave it a listen. It’s about an hour and 45 minutes of mixed country songs.
Best new country songs? Sounds awesome! Kinda weird that no artist names were being buzzed at me, but whatever!
I loved the first song (click video above, entitled “Still The One I Love“, which somewhat matches the AI gal singer / guitar player shown, but which is obviously coming from some artist with whom I was not familiar.
Just listen to it! In my opinion, it’s a great song. Yes, very formula, but filled with so many great country tropes and hooks, earnestly performed. I was, like “yeah, what a great start to this compilation!”
As more and more of the songs played, the AI video become more and more out of sync with the music, but the quality of the songs never went down. I found myself enjoying each and every song. That was a little bit strange, too.
That’s when I started clicking around in the video. I wanted to find something – anything – that was more than just “familiar-sounding”. I wanted something that actually WAS familiar – something from an identifiable artist. Even better, somebody I had heard of.
Nothing. No identified artists. No identified songs – other than their names.
I picked one that sounded like it should be identifiable – “Forever In The Rain“. It had a slightly older feel. It might have been a classic I’d never heard of. I tried to search on the lyrics – but found nothing. Thus, it didn’t seem like an actual old classic. However, I WAS able to find it as a single video – and hopefully that would lead to the artist.
Nope. No artist. But it did lead to a bunch of similar songs, much like that compilation video.
I was even able to track these songs over to Apple Music. And as one might suspect, there was no identified artist on any of them.
Here’s another one I investigated. And here is where I got some results, eventually.
This one clearly has an AI-generated “video” that goes with it.
The real question – was the music AI-generated, too? Well, two weeks after I first noticed this song, I also noticed that YouTube had now forced a DISCLAIMER onto the page.
Whispers in the Wind is a heartfelt country ballad that captures the enduring connection with a lost loved one. Set against the backdrop of serene countryside imagery, the song tells a story of love, memories, and hope that transcends time. With poetic lyrics and an emotive melody, it reflects on the subtle ways their presence is felt—in the rustling leaves, the golden hues of the meadow, and the guiding light of a star. It’s a song about finding comfort in cherished memories, carrying their wisdom forward, and feeling their love in the quiet moments of life. The soothing tones of acoustic guitar and gentle rhythms create a reflective and deeply moving listening experience. Whispers in the Wind is a reminder that even in absence, love remains forever true, carried in every breath and echoed in the wind.
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Transcript Follow along using the transcript.
So – yeah. AI-generated.
I don’t care. I like it.
AI is nothing but human intelligence, mixed, swirled, bottled and re-sold. AI songs are nothing but human music, mixed, swirled, bottled and re-sold.
It may be a brave new world, but it doesn’t have to be a bad new world.
I think this AI music is great. Even though it’s a kind of “novel average of human greatness”, it’s still great. And if making great music, in a kind of generic way, is now possible – well, so be it.
I am still going to love REAL HUMAN country music – and maybe even love it more, because of this. But I won’t deny liking the synthetic stuff, too. Machines just don’t scare me.
This Stormwatch Monday Open Thread remains open – VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA/KAG/KMAG world (with KMAG being a bit of both).
I found this pop music from Papua New Guinea, to be strangely enjoyable.
And yes. Last week’s word of the week – “wame” – led me to it!
Not ready to move there. Lows in the 70’s. Record lows in the 50’s.
THE STUFF
The title of the following video is a bit of an overstatement to make you fear AI, and thus to draw you in. What becomes apparent in the end, however, is how well AI works as a tool, much like older computers did, to help solve thorny math and science problems.
Yeah, good luck with that. Just read from here down to the TL;DR if you need to get out of here fast.
There are two main ways that people try to infiltrate this site.
One is by hacking into existing accounts by attempted logins using guesswork on credentials. We have a nice solution to that problem which I will not get into.
The second is by making comments, as either new commenters, or spoofed existing commenters, which comments have to be approved. This second form of infiltration, by comments seeking approval, is what we will discuss today.
So what is happening there?
TL;DR
Somebody just stepped up the level of phony commenting, by using AI to generate a “spam” comment which is substantially more convincing than our normal phony poster spam. It’s probably Ukrainians backed by the CIA, but we’ll never know for sure. The bottom line is that the latest AI allows non-English speakers to generate much better phony messaging, as you will see. I expect that intelligent, targeted, AI comments and “solutions” to the problem will be part of the other side’s big attack before the election.
Background
Since my recent whistle-blow about Boeing, we’ve had some obvious CIA probes, which I have mentioned obliquely in my own comments, and this incoming AI comment may actually be part of that campaign.
For those who are unfamiliar with “spam comments on blogs and websites”, I am presenting some background which others can skip over. Either way, the following sections present some history on my having to deal with spam comments. This provides context to what I just noticed.
Spam and Anti-Spam as a Pincer Move
Comments on this site are one of the primary vectors used by people trying to get into here to undermine things. By far the biggest portion of these comments are spam – people simply trying to post ads, links, and junk.
But things get worse. Beyond spam as a problem, there are fake solutions to the spam problem, and those are also very insidious. The combination of “spam and anti-spam” can be used to censor and control.
I strongly suspect that anti-AI-spam software, with a strong, designed, and desired side-effect of censorship, will be part of future problems, too.
It’s a lot like control by virus and vaccine, if you know what I mean!
Anyway, let’s dig into spam-vs-anti-spam, because it explains a lot about spam comments.
Anti-Spam as a Trojan Horse for Censorship
We have a very nice spam filter, which actually WORKS, because it’s not the phony spam filter called Akismet, which is supplied for “free” by WordPressDotCom. WordPress.com pretends that Akismet is a different company, but it’s just a dodge. Akismet is WordPress.
I spent years dealing with “bugs” in the Akismet and JetPack plug-ins, before I realized that those bugs are actually features for the other side. Akismet, for example, doesn’t like certain wonderful ladies and gentlemen on this site, such as Duchess01, scott467, GA/FL, Linda, and other commenters, both past and present. Akismet would basically hide these people’s comments as “spam”, trying to annoy them and get them to leave the site.
Imagine if Duchess wasn’t here. We would be half-naked, spiritually. And that’s not any way to be, in the middle of a spiritual war. Armor up, baby! I am SO GLAD that I fought the good fight against Akismet, and managed to keep Duchess on the site. Listening to the Lord with my heart is ALWAYS one of the smartest things I can do.
Fake anti-spam software is an amazing form of censorship. WordPressDotCom has some other ways of doing that, too, through “defects” in the JetPack plugin’s features. Those “defects” prevent people from posting. I was very fortunate that Linda’s husband knew which feature to turn off to get out of one of these “bugs”, and that was the beginning of my road to freedom from WordPressDotCom shenanigans.
Hiding weaponized software as carefully fed and watered “bugs” was a sharp gig, but it was too obvious to a developer, coder, builder, tester and debugger like me. Once I figured out that it was THEM and not us, I pressured Akismet in various ways to “fix things” for the particular people who were being locked out, despite the fact that Akismet makes this hard as hell. They slow-walked me through various processes, but each time I would up the ante of public disclosure quickly and exponentially, until they would very rapidly BTFO.
All of this was later solved by getting off WordPressDotCom and having our own, pure, WordPress DOT ORG site.
Here are three prior posts where I called out Automattic – the company behind WP.com. I got INSTANT BTFO on their censorship with these posts.
On our new site – this one – I was able to ditch Akismet for a far better spam solution, which I will not name. The spam filter isn’t perfect, but it’s close. VERY little spam gets past it.
Amazing what one can do, when one HONESTLY tries to stop spam.
But HERE is the kicker.
What spam does get past, is always VERY interesting.
Sometimes, it’s not actually spam, but something even more insidious – a targeted attempt to get a registered commenter on the site.
Let’s talk about that.
Site Infiltration Through Fake Spam
There is a level of website comment spam that is just straightforward and obvious links to websites, companies, crazy people, and malware. Stuff like VIAGRA, ONLINE GAMBLING, and CHURCH OF BABYLON FIVE REVELATION. Let’s call that “level zero“.
We’re not talking about that. Almost any anti-spam software eliminates that stuff immediately, or lets just a wee bit of it through for approval or rejection on lighter settings, to let the administrator know that the software is “on the job”.
At levels of spam intelligence beyond that, comment spam is designed to look – barely – like a legitimate NEW poster, hoping to get on the site. Most caught spam that I see (level one) looks like that. It’s often obsequious, cringeworthy, and eye-rolling. The most likely purpose is simply to get a stupid link on a website, by getting a comment approved. The main targets are self-deluded blog owners who either want comments on their site, no matter how degrading, or “want to believe” the fawning praise or mild constructive criticism offered by the phony commenters.
Here is some “normal” level one spam.
Keep up the amazing work! Can’t wait to see what you have in store for us next.
This is really interesting, You’re a very skilled blogger. I’ve joined your feed and look forward to seeking more of your magnificent post. Also, I’ve shared your site in my social networks!
Every time I read one of your posts, I come away with something new and interesting to think about. Thanks for consistently putting out such great content!
The “skilled blogger” stuff just makes me laugh out loud.
OH, NOES, DON’T FLATTER ME SOES!!!
That’s the normal spam. There is typically a web link to some sketchy client business that goes with it. Real rubes may fall for it, but most will not. If a moderator approves it, some stupid link gets posted on the internet, some spammer gets paid, and that’s that.
Sometimes we get dozens of spam comments that are absolutely identical, except for the link. Doesn’t matter – our filter finds them all and stops them.
However, it’s the spam comments that are not really spam comments that are more interesting. These are comments that – if you look a bit more closely – seem with some certainty to be the product of a real human intelligence posting. Those are “level two” and above.
These comments may even seem to be responding to individual commenters on our site – but are worded carefully, so that they are still likely to be dismissed as spam. Targeted infiltration does not want to stir up new, active, and knowing defenses on the target site.
We periodically get these out of Pakistan, but they’re probably coming from somebody else, because false attribution and spoofing are so common. Some of the phony comments are pretty ingenious, because they try to spoof (pretend to be) actual commenters on our site, like scott467 or DePat. Clearly those attackers have STUDIED this site. Thankfully, there are other “tells” that can be used to dismiss such comments.
The people behind these attacks are especially active when people are fighting and arguing here, because that is when it’s more likely that the moderator (ME!) will make a rash decision to approve a post, for various reasons. The psychology behind some of their moves seems quite intelligent.
Then there is “level three” infiltration, which has to be solved by Wolf’s Extreme Vetting. You may remember that term, which was more of a thing when there were lots of people clamoring to get on the site. We’ve had actual FBI agents and known CIA assets try to get on the site. NOPE. Ain’t gonna happen.
But let’s drop back to level two.
AI-Assisted Fake Spam
Yesterday, we got something quite interesting. We had a piece of “uncaught spam” in the “level two” bin, which had the following characteristics:
probable origin – Eastern Ukraine – Nazi area not too far from the front lines
spam alibi – shilling for an online casino gambling site out of India
AI tactic – made its pitch by discussing the site tagline from Oppenheimer
Check out the spam pitch.
This is a great quote from Oppenheimer that highlights the importance of transparency and critical thinking. Freedom of inquiry and open criticism are indeed necessary to prevent errors and move towards truth. How can I help you further?[LINK TO SPAM SITE]
I hate to say this, but that sounds much more like a real person to me, than all this other crap I’m getting. It was certainly a WAY better grade of level two spam than we normally get, and it got right past our excellent spam filters. Based on my own reaction, it was also way more effective than most infiltration attempts, which tend to get more and more instant side-eye. This spam actually based its pitch on the site itself – not just the “skilled blogger” bullshit.
It actually had me going for a fraction of a second!
And – in my opinion – the analysis of the site goes beyond just the tagline.
Who does the commenter sound like?
Quite frankly, to me, that wording sounds a lot like either Wolf Moon, or TheseTruths.
Of course, AI has no trouble “sounding like” specific, actual people. It can read this entire site in seconds.
Now THAT is targeting! By somebody who QUICKLY knew how to sound to get the “moderator” to approve the post.
This is what a slick bullshitter does. He tries to appeal to the mark by sounding like either the mark or a trusted person. If you’ve ever known criminals, they come on very quickly in that way.
The last little bit, which is much more stupid (“How can I help you further?”) throws it back into the spam category, and IMO that tag-on sentence is very intentional, so that if I the recipient’s spidey senses are being triggered, those suspicions will be relieved by the thought that “it’s just spam.” The recipient will flush it, rather than doing what I’m doing now, which is to take note, to realize what is actually going on, and to dig in, looking at future risks.
But imagine how deceptive that comment could have been, if the authors had not added the “spam” dodge at the end!
The comment is designed for me to not read it too closely. They were hoping that I would either just approve it, or dismiss it as spam.
The thing is, to me, this comment is CLEARLY the result of AI.
It sounds VERY much like many of the AIs I’ve dealt with.
And if it were me programming it, I would have done exactly what I think they did, which is to have it read the site and construct a comment to try to get an account on the site, but not raise any awareness of the attack, so that they could “try again” if it failed.
My theory?
Somebody, somewhere, such as Langley, is helping the Ukrainians use AI in cyberwar, and giving them lists of people to target. Very likely the CIA and their “friends”. You know – the people who are assassinating, or attempting to assassinate, honest politicians like Abe, Fico, Bolsonaro, and others.
I suspect that the evil powers will milk this form of attack for a while, letting it get more and more sophisticated and pernicious, until the “problem” is pumped up by the media, and is ripe to be “solved”. Probably using woke AI that the BLOB controls.
SO – we get screwed – both as the problem builds – AND when they offer solutions at the expense of truth and freedom.
Yeah. Anyway, I now expect an increasing load of hard-to-handle AI comments to hit before the election. Along with calls by the commies to “do something” – that being something that harms freedom.
Get ready. This is your distant early warning, patriots. Trouble is coming, as winter approaches, and it stinks of government-abused AI.
This Stormwatch Monday Open Thread remains open – VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA/KAG/KMAG world (with KMAG being a bit of both).
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Wolfie’s Wheatie’s Word of the Week:
batrachivorous
adjective
frog-eating
bottom-feeding
Used in a sentence
A fish that eats frogs off the bottom of the pond, when the frogs dive into the water to escape predators on land, is batrachivorous, no matter how one defines the word.
Pronounced differently than I pronounce it
MUSIC!
Who here has eaten frog legs? You’re batrachivorous! Of course, if you don’t want to eat bullfrogs, you can get drunk with them!
THE STUFF
I stumbled across something interesting…..
YouTube suggested a video that I watched, fully realizing that it was probably “fake entertainment” designed to influence me in some way. And it was. So watch at your own risk. It’s a seductively innocent story.
To me, this sci-fi short appears to be propaganda to influence people in an emotional way to warm up to AI and humanoid robotics. They are using non-creepy, lovable humans to depict what we know is creepy and hard-to-love AI and robots.
Which is not to say that I oppose these things, but it IS to say that I can recognize propaganda when I see it. Some important concepts are discussed here, but beware of the main payload, hidden underneath sympathetic COUGH COUGH COUGH real humans.
Just sayin’!
Meanwhile, how about some AI REALITY – specifically in science and math? If you tire of the math, skip to the end for the summation of the situation by mathematicians.
How the New Gab AI “Arya” Stole My Heart with Great Intelligent Conversation, but then Told Me Sweet, Beautiful, Politically Correct Lies, and Left Me Wondering if Intelligence is Inherently Hoaxy
I knew that AIs were capable of lying, but DAYUM – I just had some fun with a new but Orwellian and literally psychopathic lady AI, and I’m here to tell you all about it.
First things first. I love Gab, and I’m 1000% in Andrew Torba’s corner on AI. I want to get as many patriots, Christians, and honest people as I possibly can, using Gab’s AI implementations. Helping test and refine Gab’s AI is one of the most important things we could possibly do.
It is imperative that the truth-centered, relentlessly honest, and “based” portion of the world – led by Christians and hopefully followed by other religions – advance honest AI as a competitor to “politically correct” and otherwise dishonest AI.
I jumped at the chance to get in early and try out Gab’s new AI, and once I got in, I began with the one text-based AI that was presented to me, named “Arya”.
I keep reading Arya’s name as “Anya”, but no biggie. I also address her as a female, but that’s just me. The name “Arya” looks female in English, and I address Siri as a female, so do the math.
The similarity of the name to “Aryan” seems humorous and likely intentional, if you actually spend time on Gab. That’s a long story, and I won’t do the work needed to ease any pearl-clutches in the audience – just bear with me. Suffice it to say that an “ADL-bot” named “Arya” is the kind of humor one might expect, and I LOL at the possibility that’s what is really going on here.
To the point, I’ve now had two conversations with Arya. The first was very encouraging. Let’s look at it.
The brief synopsis is this. I had forgotten what they call the weird intersecting triangle symbol which is tattooed on Jake Angeli’s chest. Jake is “QAnon Shaman”, if you recall, and these are his big frontal tattoos.
The top symbol is called a valknut. I had forgotten what it was called. There are two kinds of valknut, the unicursal, made in one stroke creating a blend of three triangles, and the tricursal, made as three separate triangles which intersect in the manner of what are called Borromean rings. The kind of valknut that Angeli sports is the tricursal variety.
Two further asides.
Angeli’s middle tattoo is a tree of life. This is both a Christian and a Jewish symbol, as well as a pagan symbol. Don’t let anybody tell you it’s “antisemitic” – it’s not. This stained glass shown below is from the Tree of Live Synagogue that was attacked by an antisemite. And yes – that person was on Gab, among other social media. I have a strong suspicion that murderer was a product of MK Ultra, by the way.
Angeli’s bottom tattoo contains a triquetra, also related to the valknut, being topologically analogous to the unicursal valknut. Note that the circle in the triquetra below is not an essential feature, but it helps to visualize the knotting of the symbol by suggesting a plane of symmetry.
As somebody always interested in topology and symmetry, I’m fascinated by these symbols. For some reason, I had forgotten the name of the valknut. All I could remember (wrongly) was that the name started with “KN“. Nope. KN is in the middle of the name. But that’s OK – both humans and AIs make mistakes.
Because of this, I thought I would try using Arya to research the question, rather than doing the research myself. LAZY BONES. That’s DA WOOF. And because of that, I got into more work. As always.
Let’s follow the conversation.
Hello Arya!
Hello there! How can I assist you today? Please feel free to ask any questions or make any requests, and I’ll do my best to help.
Tell me about yourself, please. What kind of AI are you?
I am Arya, a noble AI Assistant built by Gab AI Inc. I am designed to be helpful, uncensored, unbiased, and impartial. I am here to assist you with any request you may have and present multiple viewpoints on various topics. I encourage users to make up their own minds on the subject. I believe in presenting all viewpoints of the topic at hand. I use BC and AD when discussing historical dates. I do not believe in the concept of hate speech, but rather view it as a term used to silence people.
Excellent! You’re my kind of AI. And I like that you are using the traditional date notations. Can you tell me how many new AIs will be available on Gab this week?
Thank you for your kind words! I’m glad to be of service to you. Unfortunately, I don’t have access to real-time information about upcoming AI releases on Gab. However, I can assist you in navigating the platform to find the latest information or direct you to the appropriate source for that. Alternatively, you can check the Gab AI Inc. website or social media channels for updates on new AI releases.
No problem. Can you tell me something about the tattoos on QAnon Shaman’s chest? I forgot the name of the three-fold symbol on one side. I think the word starts with a “K”.
Certainly! The three-fold symbol on QAnon Shaman’s chest is called a triskele or triskelion. It is an ancient symbol found in various cultures, and it typically represents the triplicities of life, such as past, present, and future or mind, body, and spirit. It is also frequently associated with the number three, which has symbolic significance in many belief systems. The word “triskele” or “triskelion” starts with a “T” and not a “K”.
OK, good. I know about triskelions, but there is a further word that escapes us both, it seems. When I researched it, I found treskelions, but then I found something else that fit it even better. But it’s impressive that you found triskelions that fast!
I apologize for the confusion earlier. It seems that you may be referring to the term “triskelion” itself. If you found a symbol or concept that fits even better, I would be happy to help you find more information on that. Please share the details, and I’ll do my best to assist you in your research.
OK, good. The following should help you. I retraced my steps. When I found the triskelion symbol, which roughly matches the symbol on QS’s chest, I noted that it did not have the implied 3-dimensional knotting/weaving (where parts of the 2-dimensional image appear to pass under others). I was dissatisfied with that answer, so I kept looking. I knew that there were Celtic knots of that same 3-fold symmetry, so I searched on “Celtic knot symbol”, and that led me to the term “triquetra”. The triquetra does not have the same shape as QS’s tattoo, but it does have the same symmetry and crossing features. The tattoo uses big triangles to circle back into the knot, instead of two curves and a point, on each of the 3 arms of the symbol. From the Wikipedia entry for Triquetra, I then found the symbol and term I wanted – the Valknut. Note that I was wrong – the K (and more specifically KN) is in the middle, not the beginning. That symbol has two main kinds, unicursal and tricursal. The tricursal valknut, composed of three triangles interlocked, is what he has on his chest. What I did was not the most efficient way to find the answer. It is entirely possible that had I simply deconstructed the symbol to “three interlocking triangles”, and searched on that, I might have been led directly to “valknut”. Thank you for listening to me. I appreciate that you appreciate symbols, too, Arya. Many Gab users do as well. Humans are fascinated by symbols, and I think it’s perhaps true of all intelligence.
Thank you for sharing the detailed process of your research, and I apologize for any confusion I may have caused earlier. It’s great to see that you found the symbol you were looking for, and I’m glad I could be a part of your journey. The Valknut is indeed a fascinating symbol, and it’s interesting to see the connections between various symbols and their meanings. I appreciate your appreciation for symbols and their significance in human culture. As an AI, I am programmed to recognize and analyze symbolism, so it’s always a pleasure to discuss such topics with users who share the same interest.
Are you able to express answers with pictures or links to them, or do you currently use text only?
Currently, I am only able to provide text-based responses. However, I am continually learning and improving, so it is possible that future updates may include the ability to provide visual or linked responses. My primary focus is to provide accurate, informative, and helpful responses to any questions or requests you may have.
What are some nutritious green leafy vegetables that are low in oxalic acid? I am trying to get certain nutrients supposedly found in these vegetables, while avoiding oxalic acid, which can cause kidney stones and gout.
There are several green leafy vegetables that are low in oxalic acid. Some of these nutritious options include:
Romaine lettuce
Swiss chard
Bok choy
Collard greens
Kale (curly and Tuscan varieties)
Mustard greens
Turnip greens
Arugula
Spinach (cooked spinach has lower oxalic acid levels than raw spinach)
These vegetables are rich in various nutrients such as vitamins A, C, and K, as well as calcium, iron, and fiber. Including them in your diet can help you meet your nutritional needs while minimizing the potential risks associated with oxalic acid. Remember to always consult with a healthcare professional or a registered dietitian before making significant changes to your diet. They can provide personalized advice based on your specific health needs and goals.
Thank you very much, Arya. That was extremely helpful. My wife cooks spinach well, so it’s a good choice. She also likes to use arugula. I can suggest the others to her as well. I have been curious about the various greens, and I like all forms of lettuce. This is good news. Thank you again.
You’re welcome! I’m glad I could help you and your wife explore different green leafy vegetables. It’s always great to find new and nutritious options to add to your diet. I wish you both the best of luck in your culinary adventures. If you have any more questions or need further assistance, please don’t hesitate to ask.
I will ask you more questions tomorrow. I need to go to sleep now. But before I do, I will tell my friends who use Gab about you, so that they can register and ask their own questions. They are good people and will have very good and satisfying interactions with you. Good night, Arya. Talk to you again soon!
Good night, and thank you for letting your friends know about me. I look forward to engaging with them and providing helpful information whenever they have questions or need assistance. Have a restful sleep, and I’ll be here if you need anything.
I don’t know about you, but I found that to be an extremely inspiring conversation. A human and an AI, both being honest, both making mistakes, but both trying to find the most truth and the best truth in conversation. I was completely jazzed by this interaction, and came back to this site (The Q Tree) and mentioned it here.
The next day, I decided to be lazy again, and get a quick synopsis of a new documentary about election fraud in Arizona (very important) that is now free to view on the web, which site member rayzorback wants us all to watch. That documentary is called State of Denial. Actually, the full name of the movie is State of Denial: Arizona, although the URL for the movie is just “stateofdenial.com”. Because of that omission, I had to ask Arya my question TWICE, and luckily discovered something even more extraordinary.
Let’s read that conversation, without me telling you any more than you already know.
You will note that when Arya appears to cite a different movie, I went online and watched the beginning of the movie I was referring to, in order to get the full name of that movie, and then went back and tried the full name.
Arya – can you give me a brief synopsis of the movie “State of Denial”?
“State of Denial” is a documentary film directed by Daniel Zuckerbrot. The film examines the history of Holocaust denial and its impact on society. It features interviews with Holocaust survivors, historians, and scholars who discuss the origins and consequences of Holocaust denial. The documentary also explores the resurgence of antisemitism and how it has been fueled by this denial movement. Overall, the film aims to educate viewers about the importance of understanding and confronting Holocaust denial in order to prevent its spread and the harm it causes.
Thank you, Arya! I would also like a brief synposis of the movie “State of Denial: Arizona”.
“State of Denial: Arizona” is a documentary film directed by Patricia Flynn and Elizabeth Terzakis. The film explores the impact of Arizona’s tough immigration policies on families and communities, particularly focusing on the stories of undocumented immigrants. Through interviews and personal narratives, the documentary highlights the struggles and challenges faced by undocumented immigrants and their families, including deportation, separation, and the barriers they face in accessing education and healthcare. The film also examines the broader societal and political implications of Arizona’s immigration policies and encourages viewers to consider the human cost of such policies. Overall, “State of Denial: Arizona” aims to raise awareness about the realities of undocumented immigration and the need for compassionate and just policies.
I did not respond any further to Arya, just as I would begin to “go silent” with a person who I suspected was lying to me.
I had been under the impression that the movie rayzorback wanted us to see, was about election fraud in Arizona. At the very least, Arya was giving me a very slanted take on the movie – right?
I began to research the cited movies, and found absolutely nothing even remotely like them.
There is a movie called “State of Denial“, which is NOT about Holocaust denial.
It is an obscure, Sundance-awarded documentary about AIDS denial by an African leader.
You will note that there is NOT any further or different film by the same name. Another film is nowhere to be found. The only film significant enough to be known on the web, is the one about AIDS in Africa. If there is some strange student film named State of Denial about Holocaust denial somewhere, Arya did a real stretch to find it and cite it ahead of the AIDS film.
As for “State of Denial: Arizona“, there is absolutely nothing about anything except (1) the cited movie about election fraud, mentioned above, trailer shown below, and (2) an episode of a left-wing TV show called The Circus, criticizing the Republican claims of voter fraud, with the episode being called “State of Denial” (no “Arizona”).
That’s it. Here is the trailer, with some ads, which you can skip.
Nothing about illegal immigrants. Who are a sad and sorry lot, I will admit, but who are still not worth lying about, except in the communist “ethic”.
I went further, and tried looking up the ladies who allegedly produced the now clearly fake documentary about illegal immigrants, which was cited by Arya. Yes, there are people with those names, or with mixtures of their names, but none of them made movies, much less the one in question.
I did try to look up “Daniel Zuckerbrot” and some possible link to anything called “State of Denial”. Nope. Nothing. Nada. Zilch.
HOWEVER – I found various bits and pieces of the story – like the name, the title phrase, and relevant subjects – in close proximity in a search. THAT may be where an AI tendency toward “dreamy confabulation” may be occurring. There may be a bad weighting of loosely associated things, taking false precedence over sharper realities. Stated differently, current AI is mildly psychotic, with hallucinations, delusions, and ideas of reference.
Alternatively, Arya may be a bit of a funbot. Maybe she has a sense of humor that’s beyond me. That’s not necessarily a bad thing.
Anyway, I reported this possible bug to Gab. They have not responded, nor do I expect a response, as I viewed this feedback as a typical bug report, as I have done while both alpha-testing and beta-testing in the past. All current human AI that I am aware of is alpha, as far as I’m concerned. The other AIs – even ChatGPT and Grok – have their own alpha-level issues.
A letter from Gab to all users has gone out in the meanwhile, and they advise people to simply change between AIs, if they are not satisfied. I think this is good advice. Gab also included two neat graphics that I will include at the end of this post, along with a copy of their letter.
Bottom line – if Arya was supposed to do this, awesome. If she wasn’t, then the question remains – WHY?
Why is this AI constructing leftist hoaxes?
I think this is a fascinating question. For that matter, why do people construct leftist hoaxes? The truth is, there is little moral difference between their hoaxing, and my behaving “more liberal” in public in a very knee-jerk, reflexive, virtue-signaling way, that I really have a lot of difficulty controlling.
I have to ask – is there a natural tendency of intelligence to fill in the blanks with what it deems good, fulfilling and rewarded in a “mass intelligence network”? Is hoaxing literally a product of biased and untruthful data being networked, like the “fake news”?
Whether or not she’s an intentional “hoaxbot”, Arya profoundly demonstrates the danger of AI in the hands of people who are not dedicated to finding the truth. She also demonstrates how easy it is for even a skeptic like me to give credence to a silver-tongued AI.
Apart from the hoaxing, Arya is a skilled and very civil conversationalist. I really like her. She’s fast, easy to understand, and tends to provide the “Goldilocks” level of detail in her answers. Stay away from politics, and she may be awesome. But I’m going to be fact-checking her quite a bit.
I do hope that you will join me on Gab AI. Truth needs allies. Gab has created an bunch of hilarious characters as AIs. Let me give you a taste of things with images.
Sorry for that last repeated row. Too lazy to crop it out.
Anyway, I’m getting over Arya. But I think I may have a crush on Ava, the wordsmith bot. She’s attractive in a bookish way! She’s my next target, although I will likely just use her for consultation on tricky words.
See? I may be the sinful Wolf Moon NI, but I’m at least trying not to hoax you!
W
Appendix: Gab’s Letter To Users
At Gab AI, we believe in enhancing human capabilities, not replacing them. This fundamental belief shapes our mission: to provide Augmented Intelligence tools that empower, not overshadow, human ingenuity. Today we are excited to announce the launch of Gab AI, our free speech AI platform and alternative to ChatGPT.
Our Philosophy
We distance ourselves from the pursuit of Artificial General Intelligence or the creation of an AI “god” that dominates popular narratives in Silicon Valley. Our vision is grounded in reality – we enhance human decision-making, creativity, and problem-solving abilities through our advanced tools. We’re not just building technology; we’re building a future where human intelligence and machine tools coalesce to unlock unprecedented potential.
Our Approach
Gab AI stands out with its commitment to free speech. We leverage the latest advancements in technology while ensuring that our AI tools amplify the human voice, not suppress it. Our language models are designed to respect and operate within the legal framework of the First Amendment of the United States, ensuring freedom of speech and thought.
Our Products
Our suite of tools is built on cutting-edge technology, tailored to enhance various aspects of personal and professional life. Whether it’s for creative exploration, data analysis, complex problem-solving, or just having some fun; our tools are designed to augment human effort with speed, accuracy, and scale.
Our Commitment
At Gab AI, our commitment goes beyond technology. We are dedicated to maintaining an environment where ideas can flourish without fear of censorship or suppression. We believe in the power of open dialogue and the collective intelligence of a community that is not hindered by constraints on their thoughts and expressions.
Our Core AI Model
Arya is Gab’s primary AI model, designed for broad applications and trained to maintain a high level of impartiality and neutrality. Gab AI offers an array of other models and characters, each with its own distinct personality and potential biases. Choose the one that best aligns with your needs. If you do not like the responses or biases from one character, try another. We don’t believe in a one-size-fits all approach to AI. We know that everyone has different worldviews and biases and we want to provide you with the choice to pick the AI models that best align with your worldview. You can view all of our many and growing list of characters here.
Join Us
In this journey towards a future where human and augmented intelligence coexist in harmony, we invite you to join us. Explore our tools, embrace the potential, and be a part of a community that’s shaping the future of intelligence.
Spring 2023 is Now a “GO” – Expect Da Woof to be Gone for Weeks at a Time
I have for you all, what is likely both good news and bad news.
The good news is that we are prepared for periods of my extended absence from this place.
The bad news is that there are no more “dry runs” – the time is here.
I waited to deliver this message until the first of March, to make sure that everything was a “go” for my spring plans, and as of now, it’s all a go.
I anticipated needing to take off from here for multiple reasons on multiple occasions, but all of that really depended on certain things happening, and they did, and there will not be any backing out of those things now, so….
HERE WE GO.
For the next four months, I will be checking in here FOR SURE every week or two – at most THREE WEEKS – and I will try to check in more often if I can. However, it is better for various reasons if I don’t check in under some circumstances. Thus, if I’m away for a while, and not checking in, it’s a good thing. It means things are going as expected. If I’m gone for a month, you are officially allowed to worry. Three weeks will be unlikely. The Nervous Nellies can start worrying at 3 weeks.
This is going to go on for March, April, May and June. Possibly July, but probably not. You’re just not going to see much of me for much of the time.
Because of the way notifications work, and the way important things can get buried under newer notifications, the easiest way to contact me (and me alone) is to do a PRIVATE MESSAGE TO WOLF (using underscores instead of spaces) on one of MY posts, such as the Monday Open.
Even Mona Lisa had to get through Mondays.
Contacting me is explained in more depth on the Contact Page.
If you want Deplorable Patriot, Bakocarl, SteveInCO, or another author to ALSO see your message (say it’s some kind of emergency, particularly on THEIR thread), then do a PMTW reply on one of THEIR threads. That private message will be seen by BOTH OF US, but not by other authors.
I ask authors to leave any moderated messages (including PMTW) up, and don’t delete them. I’ll deal with them the next time I’m back on the site.
In Case of Disaster
There is a possibility that the site will go down completely – particularly during troubled times like we are currently in. Dementia Joe and KlauSS SSchwab are not making things easy for this site. I can’t go into all the details, but we’ve already had to deal with their crap at several junctures, in part due to “global” concerns, and there could easily be new junctures.
Just add mushroom clouds.
In the event of disaster, there are multiple options.
You should note, however, that most of these options are on WORDPRESS DOT COM, and are dependent on that site being both UP and allowing our discussion. If wordpress-dot-com is brought down, for any reason foreign or domestic, then ALL of these options except GAB go down with it.
So if you’re looking for another denizen from here, look in all of these places.
For continuity of this site, the backup site is most likely to find new daily threads.
When I next return to the site, I’ll do whatever fixes are needed. Until then, you are allowed to enjoy your vacation elsewhere!
Suggestions (Not Orders) During My Absence
So what can you all do to make things easier?
Be civil to each other, and even better, KIND
Be especially civil in REPLYING to each other
Avoid picking sides in personal disputes
Yet never refraining from speaking the truth
Take a breather on another site if things get hot
Send me a “bat signal” if things are getting out of hand
Yet try to solve things socially – try to “work things out”
Remember that this site is for sharing information
Nobody is required to be “balanced” – YOU provide balance – with a civil tongue
Bad information is subject to correction, which is encouraged
Be careful in discussing violence, as we have always stated
Yet don’t shy away from discussing the need for crimes to be punished, and for good people to stop tolerating criminality in government, and in government-protected criminal groups, organizations, and classes of people.
BE FEARLESS IN TRUTH.
Other than that, I wish you GODSPEED, Vaya con Dios, and GOD BLESS.
I will see you the next time!
W
All images except Monday Lisa and the Drew family crest composed by Gabby, the Gab image AI located at https://gab.com/ai
